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Mak · Jun 30, 2005, 06:42 PM // 18:42

Who cares; its not real money. And besides the noob would probably just waste it dying there presearing armour(I did in my first Beta, I had black pants with a red shirt- d'oh), so really the traders are kind of helping noobs.

Master Wulffe · Nov 09, 2005, 06:23 AM // 06:23

Speaking of NOOBs, on my first character playing this game, I was fortunate (didn't know at the time of course) to get a Black Dye drop. I didn't even try to sell it to people, since I didn't know much about it, and just sold it to the nearest merchant for 1g.
Yes, can u believe my reaction once I found out how much they were worth. hehe

Anyways, a game's reputation can be made or destroyed on how friendly people are in the game. If most people are out there to prey and screw the new players, well the word will get around.

Personally, I remember how it was to be a NOOB (really hate that term as well), so I help any new person as much as possible, and I do point out the ones that try to prey or scam players. You can swear at me, tell me to shut up, or what not, but I'll just keep doing what I think is right. Just as some think it's fine to rip off new players, I'll do what I think is fine.

So, rip them off if you want, but don't freak out if someone calls you on it. You get caught, you get caught, simple as that. Move on.

Align · Nov 09, 2005, 06:44 AM // 06:44

It was said before, but completely ignored: just add a dye trader to pre-searing Ascalon City.

Vilaptca · Nov 09, 2005, 07:05 AM // 07:05

Why do people ressurect 3 month old posts?

neoteo · Nov 09, 2005, 07:52 AM // 07:52

becose time is not important , only life is ...

Xenrath · Nov 09, 2005, 09:18 AM // 09:18

Noob is just an idiot word for people to use to insult others so they can feel big about themselves (while completely forgetting they were once "noobs" too) It's quite simple, next time you see these people who think it's ok to perform daylight robbery on the unsuspecting, just broadcast in Trade channel how much black dyes can be sold for post searing.

I bought a black dye off someone cheap, then after talking to them and realising they were new to the game handed over a few k more to make it more in line with it's real worth and explained about post searing and the prices etc (at first I thought it was an established player's second account just offloading it cheap). Why? How would YOU feel if it happened to you or your friends? Why would you want to inflict that on someone else?

aron searle · Nov 09, 2005, 09:33 AM // 09:33

For those who are saying they should research their prices before selling, dont be so ridiculas.
Their are no dye traders, and they are new to the game. Not the same as being stupid, thier obviosly not the kind of people that will spend several hours reading up on how to play the game, but rather JUST PLAY IT, (whereas you seem to suggest they are noobs for not reading up trade prices on the web, ohhhh i bet that makes you feel BIG).
Its taking advantage of the fact that unless someone is nice enought to tell them, they wont have any clues telling them dye can sell for 1000s, why would they?

Those of you that say its all part of an economy and trading have a point, i dont agree, but you make a point. i just think its taking advantage of peoples newness.

And yes put a dye trader in, i mean why isnt their one already....

AncientPC · Nov 09, 2005, 10:03 AM // 10:03

It's the cost of being uninformed.

Frankly I don't care that people are getting ripped off for their dyes in pre-searing and I don't feel that A.net has to do anything about it. Call it a learning curve.

If I got ripped off by selling a black dye for 100g I would simply chalk it up as a learning experience. I certainly don't expect sellers to tell me its real worth.

It's sort of like selling a player a Malinon Shield for 100k but at the same time telling him that he can buy it for 70k elsewhere.

aron searle · Nov 09, 2005, 10:20 AM // 10:20

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It's sort of like selling a player a Malinon Shield for 100k but at the same time telling him that he can buy it for 70k elsewhere.

Erm, its sort of nothing like that. try buy a black for 200g and telling them it can sell for 5k is kinda like it, but thats not whats happening.

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It's the cost of being uninformed.

Yes, so stick a dye trader in and then its only the truly stupid that get scammed. As it is its the average player getting ripped off, why support that?

generik · Nov 09, 2005, 10:23 AM // 10:23

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Originally Posted by aeroclown

Im not hyped up at all, I dont need to calm down, I think its wrong pure and simple, and to be honest, I could rob you blind of dye in a few minutes and be level 3 and out the door to make the sale in under 30 minutes. And get far more then 2000 gp, 1 black dye sales for 4, you have an inventory of atleast 10 slots, you can very easily get 10 to 20 k in one run and people are doing it. Its unfair and its wrong.

Not really.. you need to get gold too, and those mobs drop like 1-2 at a time. 500g for a black dye in pre is A LOT of work

Overnite · Nov 09, 2005, 11:31 AM // 11:31

I sometimes spam "WTS black dye 100 gold" in pre-sear and enjoy the chaos.

Venus · Nov 09, 2005, 11:41 AM // 11:41

The very first time I played guildwars, I was almost done with pre-searing, and I did not know where to go, so I just started to do the Northern Wall quest over and over again (max 3 times). Well, I found 2 black dyes... then I went to the merchant and sold them both for 1 gp..... 0_0

dark angel kadaj · Nov 09, 2005, 11:50 AM // 11:50

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Originally Posted by Venus

The very first time I played guildwars, I was almost done with pre-searing, and I did not know where to go, so I just started to do the Northern Wall quest over and over again (max 3 times). Well, I found 2 black dyes... then I went to the merchant and sold them both for 1 gp..... 0_0

unlucky u... did not know how much they cost

Sister Rosette · Nov 09, 2005, 11:52 AM // 11:52

My god, someone figured out a way to repeatedly kill creatures to obtain
an item worth a sizeable amount and other people don't like it.

Stop the presses.

aron searle · Nov 09, 2005, 11:59 AM // 11:59

errr, thats not what the threads about.

its about buying black dye for 200gp or so from pre seers who dont know its worth thousands.

Sister Rosette · Nov 09, 2005, 12:07 PM // 12:07

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Originally Posted by aron searle

errr, thats not what the threads about.

its about buying black dye for 200gp or so from pre seers who dont know its worth thousands.

Thread Title: Dye Farmers - Presearing, Something should be done.

Dye Farmers - Presearing, Something

Dye Farmers - Presearing,

Dye Farmers -

Dye Farmers

Farmers

aron searle · Nov 09, 2005, 12:15 PM // 12:15

READ THE THREAD AT THE BEGINING :P

not just the title.

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They create a new charcter buy all the black dye they can and ever color they can from newbies who don't know any better and then take it back to sell in post searing ascalon.

Their you go as you cant be bothered to go back and read it.

Former Ruling · Nov 09, 2005, 12:17 PM // 12:17

If their not knowledgable..then 2 types of people will effect them. Ones that want their items, and ones that dont want the before mentioned ones to get their items.

Anyway...Theres plenty of resources they coulda used to determine that Dye should be kept in pre-searing. 1) The manual tells you they are bought/sold to traders, which you find out are in Post-searing. 2) You should have sense enough to know that if someone is spamming something out like that - He is probably out to make a buck..

Plus lay off Sister - She is right...Farming is farming...Whenever someone finds a way to make alot of money people will have a problem with it.

aron searle · Nov 09, 2005, 12:24 PM // 12:24

Actually i wasnt having a go

i was simply pointing out that she had read the title not the thead.

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Anyway...Theres plenty of resources they coulda used to determine that Dye should be kept in pre-searing. 1) The manual tells you they are bought/sold to traders, which you find out are in Post-searing.

And my opionoin on this is that alot of people tend to just play games, not research them before they do. This does not make them stupid as some people have suggested, and it does not mean they deserve to be ripped off.

An economy is fine, but lets not pretend that some people are simple being taking advantage of.

Sister Rosette · Nov 09, 2005, 12:29 PM // 12:29

I did read the OP

He's whining about how an item that has a strictly cosmetic use
is now being harvested from both players and specific areas
and doesn't like it.

And I still don't care.